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Darryl Davis interviews Harcourt’s Mike Green for his “Real Estate Unscripted” podcast and finds out why real estate success is rarely accidental.

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One thing real estate does really well is chase what’s shiny.

Who’s growing the fastest?
Who’s opening the most offices?
Who looks like they’ve cracked the code right now?

But if you’ve been in this business long enough, you know that’s not what actually keeps people in the game.

That’s why my conversation with Mike Green, CEO of Harcourts, stayed with me. We recorded it for our Real Estate Unscripted podcast, but it didn’t feel like a podcast conversation. It felt like two people who’ve seen a lot of cycles talking honestly about what lasts — and what doesn’t.

How Mike Green ‘stumbled into’ real estate

Green didn’t come into real estate with a grand plan. He was 19. He stumbled into it. The market was good, transactions were cooking, and like a lot of people who start in favorable conditions, things worked before he really understood why they worked.

Then the market shifted, and suddenly effort didn’t automatically turn into results anymore.

Open houses slowed down. Momentum disappeared. And that’s when the cracks show — not just in the market, but in habits. Green was very open about what he hadn’t built early on: consistency. Daily discipline. The boring fundamentals that don’t feel urgent until they’re missing.

That part of the conversation hit me because I see it all the time. When things are good, fundamentals hide in the background. When things tighten up, they move front and center.

Green said something that stuck with me: Markets don’t create skill — they reveal it. That’s exactly right.

The 1 reason most people fail in real estate

Another thing he was clear about is that most people don’t fail in real estate because they’re incapable. They fail because they stop doing the work long enough for the business to collapse quietly. They try something. They get inconsistent. They abandon it too early. Then they look for the next thing. It happens to almost everyone at some point, right?

Over decades in the business, Green said he’s never seen someone consistently do the right work and lose long-term. It may not happen fast. It may not look pretty. But it works.

Where the conversation got especially interesting was when we talked about leadership.

Being a great agent doesn’t automatically make you a great leader. In fact, it can work against you. Leadership forces you to stop measuring success by your own production and start measuring it by how well the people around you are doing.

Green talked about how his leadership changed when he stopped focusing on himself and focused on building others. Help enough people succeed, and the business takes care of itself.

That belief was tested hard when Harcourts expanded into Australia. For more than two years, they lost money. Rejection was constant. Progress was slow. He didn’t dress it up — it was draining. There was a point where walking away would’ve made sense.

What stopped him wasn’t motivation. It was a blunt question from someone he trusted: “When did you decide to become a loser?”

That question forced a decision. He stayed. He kept going. And looking back now, that moment changed everything.

It’s a good reminder that success in real estate doesn’t always look like confidence or clarity in the moment. Sometimes it looks like staying when it would be easier to quit.

Finding (or re-finding) your purpose

Green also talked openly about purpose — and what happens when it disappears. Later in his career, when he stepped away from day-to-day leadership, he was surprised by how quickly his energy dropped. Titles and income weren’t enough on their own. Without a reason to engage, motivation faded.

Burnout, he said, isn’t always about working too hard. A lot of times, it’s about feeling disconnected from why you’re doing it at all.

And the last thing he talked about feels especially relevant right now: The market matters, but it doesn’t decide who wins. Some people do really well in tough conditions. Others don’t. The difference usually comes down to habits, consistency, and personal ownership — not luck.

Where you are a year from now won’t be determined by the market you’re hoping for. It’ll be shaped by the work you’re willing to keep doing when things feel uncertain.

Mike Green’s career is proof that success in real estate is rarely accidental. It’s built slowly, reinforced daily and held together by fundamentals that don’t go out of style.

If you want to hear the full conversation — the parts that didn’t make it into this article — you can listen to Mike’s episode of Real Estate Unscripted here.

Darryl Davis is the CEO of Darryl Davis Seminars. Connect with him on Facebook or YouTube.

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